tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199344009565039702.post2805769052136791521..comments2008-07-10T23:55:41.326-04:00Comments on Autotypist: Flarf is Nonceptualism vs. a Conceptual's Poetics ...Jeremy James Thompsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06223335037924767241noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199344009565039702.post-64960180818965165342008-07-10T23:55:00.000-04:002008-07-10T23:55:00.000-04:002008-07-10T23:55:00.000-04:00Can my "MySpace Avant Garde Superwriting" (see cli...Can my "MySpace Avant Garde Superwriting" (see clip bellow) function as an integrative bridge between Flarf dudes and Conceptuals? Can I hang out with any Los Angeles Flarfs or Conceptuals? How smart do you have to be? <BR/><BR/>Recent news paper article: <BR/><BR/>Los Angeles based artist Luke McGowan alleges to have hired fifty Chinese child laborers (mean age 12 yrs.), paying them a mere $2 each (a total of $100) to retype the entire oeuvre of United States poet Kenneth Goldsmith. Goldsmith, perhaps best known as editor of the online archive UbuWeb (http://ubu.com) and as host of a weekly radio show on New York City’s WFMU, is leader and spokesperson of a new literary movement he dubs “conceptual" or “uncreative" writing. In a recent piece for the Poetry Foundation, Goldsmith states that his version of conceptual writing “employs intentionally self and ego effacing tactics using uncreativity, unoriginality, illegibility, appropriation, plagiarism, fraud, theft, and falsification as its precepts; information management, word processing, databasing, and extreme process as its methodologies; and boredom, valuelessness, and nutritionlessness as its ethos." Goldsmith’s better-known works include such uncreative and nutritionless projects as the transcription of one entire issue of The New York Times (Day, 2003) and the transcription of a year’s worth of weather reports (The Weather, 2005).<BR/><BR/>In a recent interview, Luke McGowan, who describes himself as of the new generation of “post-conceptual" writers, has said that he prefers to “just cut-and-paste rather than transcribe all that shit." Indeed, McGowan’s Robo Ursonate, 2005, was contructed by way of simply cutting and pasting the score of Kurt Schwitters’ Ursonate (1932) and letting it rip on a commercial text-to-speech synthesis program. Among other projects, McGowan is known for his spoof on the OuLipo, OuMyPo (google it), a MySpace version of experimental constraint writing.<BR/><BR/>Of his latest project Uncreative Child Labor, McGowan explains: “It is disgusting what you can do with the internet and what the internet can do to writing. The older generation, for example the Language Poets, and their immediate descendants, including Kenny, are just too enmeshed in a poststructuralist version of academic formalism to combat the implicit bourgeois subjectivity of their webpages, blogs, and emails. I’m just saying that if you want to do something of radical political consequence, you have to say it with its opposite. I mean none of those guys would even add me as a friend on MySpace."<BR/><BR/>PS This is what happens when you're not totally into this stuff! I think Gary Sullivan thinks I'm stupid. Awkward! Re cognitivist poetics.neuromerehttp://openid.aol.com/neuromerenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199344009565039702.post-42113051855067250082008-06-25T09:54:00.000-04:002008-06-25T09:54:00.000-04:002008-06-25T09:54:00.000-04:00Hi Jeremy,I would think the editorial statements f...Hi Jeremy,<BR/><BR/>I would think the editorial statements for the journal speak for themselves: the Foucault of the History of Sexuality versus the Foucault of Discipline and Punish, The simultaneous coalescing and dispersal of identity filtered through the idea of language being queer rather than just authors, the problem of the link between manifestos and heteronormativity in general.Tim Petersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12788267620443595389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199344009565039702.post-16177508252912917742008-06-25T08:17:00.000-04:002008-06-25T08:17:00.000-04:002008-06-25T08:17:00.000-04:00Thank, Brian. What with Transcepts running around ...Thank, Brian. What with Transcepts running around look out for Drag Poetics. <BR/><BR/>!Jeremy James Thompsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06223335037924767241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199344009565039702.post-39091508783221722912008-06-25T00:12:00.000-04:002008-06-25T00:12:00.000-04:002008-06-25T00:12:00.000-04:00Was over at KSM's today, andhe's changed "nonceptu...Was over at KSM's today, and<BR/>he's changed "nonceptualism"<BR/>to "transceptualism" and no one<BR/>had yet questioned why.<BR/>I didn't either.brian salcherthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11649691450577647656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199344009565039702.post-13956636772873847782008-06-24T14:17:00.000-04:002008-06-24T14:17:00.000-04:002008-06-24T14:17:00.000-04:00Tim,I appreciate the link & have begun to read. Th...Tim,<BR/><BR/>I appreciate the link & have begun to read. There is so much to read. Perhaps once I have read more I will have a better understanding of what this is. I understand the surface of the thing: to queer something, parallels between identity/ gender politics and GENRE politics (channeling Retallack, here). It seems a true alternative implication, but with true alternative baggage and consequences. My curiosity, however destructive, wants to read yet another manifesto, like: Queerasure Omissions or Opaqueer Contraductions.Jeremy James Thompsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06223335037924767241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199344009565039702.post-62948699768831177272008-06-20T09:51:00.000-04:002008-06-20T09:51:00.000-04:002008-06-20T09:51:00.000-04:00Alternative implication:http://chax.org/eoagh/issu...Alternative implication:<BR/><BR/>http://chax.org/eoagh/issue3/issuethree.htmlTim Petersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12788267620443595389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199344009565039702.post-18947162248105074682008-06-18T12:16:00.000-04:002008-06-18T12:16:00.000-04:002008-06-18T12:16:00.000-04:00Jeremy,You may already know this,but I just posted...Jeremy,<BR/><BR/>You may already know this,<BR/>but I just posted a post which<BR/>links to this post, and on it<BR/>I've included a link to my<BR/>rho0028 It Poetics post.<BR/><BR/>The new Blogger has some nice<BR/>features, but I'm going to stay<BR/>with what I have.brian salcherthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11649691450577647656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199344009565039702.post-48875758453866689962008-06-18T09:59:00.000-04:002008-06-18T09:59:00.000-04:002008-06-18T09:59:00.000-04:00Brian, I am also none of the above, or all of the ...Brian, <BR/><BR/>I am also none of the above, or all of the above. Again, I'll echo my initial thought (hope) that the debates and efforts should be focused on practices as form, rather than identities. The naming of things is better left as posthumous work, unless there's some need for solidarity, political stance, or regional identification (none of which see evident/ present in these cases). <BR/><BR/>I remember I kind of Poetic Statement of on your blog not too long ago. Was that in regard to your It Poetics?<BR/><BR/>And yes, the update prioritized listings of my blog roll is a feature of the new Blogger.Jeremy James Thompsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06223335037924767241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199344009565039702.post-82030760892383637782008-06-17T23:15:00.000-04:002008-06-17T23:15:00.000-04:002008-06-17T23:15:00.000-04:00Great highights. -I am neither a conceptualist, n...Great highights. <BR/>-<BR/>I am neither a conceptualist, nor a<BR/>flarfist, nor a nonconceptualist;<BR/>but I am somewhat interested in them. I call my poetics an It Poetics. That is, the work in hand is more important than any--when there is any--preconceived notion about it.<BR/><BR/>Separately: Your blog is the first <BR/>one I've seen which keeps track of<BR/>when certain other blogs are updated.<BR/>Is that part of the new Blogger?brian salcherthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11649691450577647656noreply@blogger.com